Permission Post

[thezerothlaw]

There are going to be two aspects to this post.

First, Daneel possesses strong mental powers, although he's new to having them. He can read emotions -- not distinct thoughts, but the general emotional state. He knows what a human mind should feel like, or a robot mind for that matter. So, the first question I have is can Daneel read from your character, and what general impression he might get. If your character is not human, can he figure that out listening to the way their brain works?

Second, Daneel has the ability to subtly influence and change emotions in people. That is to say, he can encourage a feeling of trust, or a sense of charity, or suppress the desire to act. Because too strong a change will cause harm, he's reluctant to actually use this ability unless it's essential for the greater good. He's certainly not going to go make your character do something they normally would never want to do. Because of the massive amount of abuse inherent in this ability, I don't plan on Daneel using this ability very often, and certainly never without express permission from the person in question for that particular instance. Still, if for whatever reason they're immune in general, say so.

Comments

[onteamdyson]

You definitely have full permission for both Lydia and Kenzi. I think since Lydia was able to be influenced by Peter and the hallucinations, she would definitely be able to be influenced by Daneel's ability so yes! Full permission for both.

[thezerothlaw]

Excellent. Your trust will not be unfounded. :)

[plaidsamurai]

1. Logan might be harder to read than others, but just think of it as if he were trying to read any hardened-military-guy type. His true emotions are usually buried pretty deep and just expressed through... grumpiness.

2. I actually have a very interesting situation where Daneel's power might come in handy! When Logan gets attacked he can go into a mindless bezerker rage thing, which is dangerous to just about everyone besides himself. It would be interesting if Daneel could encourage a sense of calm on him, at least enough maybe to give some other character a chance at subduing him. Might be interesting if it ever came to that, but in general, I can't see it being used.

[thezerothlaw]

1. Noted.

2. This actually does sound reeeeally interesting and might be worth working out at some point.

[plaidsamurai]

It would, especially because 'sending in' the robot just seems... logical. It just takes a ton to get Logan to that point. Special circumstances for sure.

[hung_garian]

Daneel would probably be able to tell that Gabriel's not human, and I reckon he should be able to read him well enough. Angels seem to feel things pretty strongly, even if they don't always show it, but on the other hand they probably have decent mental defenses, so I guess it'd even out to about normal? It's usually not too hard to tell if Gabriel's getting emotional about things just from body language, so I suppose it's not such a big deal in his case. As far as I'm concerned, Daneel's welcome to read him pretty well, unless you think he shouldn't be able to.

As for the influence part of his abilities, I guess it'd depend on the circumstances - like I said, angels are probably going to have defenses and be harder to manipulate than the average human, but that doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't work. Gabriel's quite easy to manipulate by normal human means and he's not all that emotionally aware so he might not even notice, so... I don't know. Talk it out if it ever becomes relevant?

[thezerothlaw]

Yeah, the thing about being able to change people's emotional states... that's always going to get talked out if it's relevant. XD Thanks!

[happytobleed]

You're free to use any of them on Cas, Phil or Kobra. I don't think the emotion thing would work on Cas, though.

Kobra's brain is a little rattled to anyone who takes a good look at it. He's died a few times to the point of being loaded into a body bag for some length of time. He was obviously brought back by some technological means, but the fact of the matter is that he was dead and his brain has suffered or it. His memories have holes in them and in general, anyone who can look inside his head will get a sense of disarray and distress.

[noblexcompanion]

Feel free to have at Donna. Her mind is not the cheeriest of places though. It's a pit of self-doubt and self-loathing. There's also the dormant consciousness of a Time Lord floating around in there.

As for being able to influence and change her emotions - go for it!

[notrosesshadow]

1. At the moment, Daneel will definitely sense some depression and insecurities that have absolutely nothing to do with the current kidnapping coming from Martha.

2. I'm cool with this!

[captoftardis.livejournal.com]

I'd think Daneel would notice something might be different of the Doctor. He's free to listen in, but it very well might overwhelm him given the complexity of a Time Lord's mind.

He could change emotions of the Doctor, but it would take ALOT of work to do so.

[afallenstar]

I would definitely assume he can tell Anna's not human, whether or not it'd be specific enough to tell she was an angel is probably more a question for your end than mine, but let the record show that I'm fine with it! Also her emotions will be rather enhanced lately anyway too, it'd be like a bright red flag waving in your face so I'd be surprised if he couldn't at least sense that. She's a bummer right now angelic prison is a bitch.

In terms of the second half, maybe? It's a bit more grey area, obviously it'd be harder than with a normal mind, but on the flip side she's a lot more humanized than most Angels so perhaps minorly? Case-by-case circumstance, shall we say :)

[thezerothlaw]

At present, Daneel doesn't know what an angel is. He's met Cas, and he knows Cas isn't human, but what he actually is, Daneel has no clue. So with your permission, Daneel would probably be able to tell Anna's the same thing as Cas... whatever that is.

[greenisnteasy]

Bruce's mind is all clogged up with the Hulk, so it'd be difficult to read him probably, like trying to see through a dense fog. Not impossible to see something, but really difficult and there'd be resistance. It's an n to the second as Daneel probably wouldn't push hard enough to schlog through the crap in Bruce's (or the Hulk's) head.

[magnets]

EEK I NEVER FILLED THIS OUT X3

Both Stiles and Jesse are pretty damn open for mental influence in any which way - they're perfectly human and couldn't stop it coming.

[evolv]

Go for reading/augmenting Darwin!

[violenthearted]

I don't th...ink he ought to ping as anything other than human if Daneel reads him? Like--technically he's not, he's a mutant, which is certainly available to be gleaned since Erik is virtually always thinking about it lately, but 99% of the biology is the same.

Other than that he's uh. Angry. All. The time. No matter what else he's thinking or feeling there's always this low-grade fury running underneath, and whatever emotion he's feeling is generally much stronger than what's showing on his face or in his body language etc. There are exceptions, but as a ruuuule he hides most of his cards.

Secondly, uh--Erik is 160% opposed to having his emotions influenced, but I as a player am definitely open to the possibility of discussion, at least! It's something we can revisit if an applicable situation arises? He's not immune for any reason I can think of other than being possessed of obnoxiously strong will.

[enchangement]

1. Emotional reading is a go. Daneel might even be able to realize that River has absolutely no control whatsoever over her emotional state at any given moment, so feel free to run with that. She's human, but is missing parts of her brain. Fun fun.

2. As a result of aforementioned lack of control I'm not sure that River wouldn't notice a sudden feeling of (insert goodwill here) and then try and figure out where it comes from since...missing the part of the brain that would do it for her is a bit problematic. I'm definitely down for him to try though with various results.

[venatical]

1. Read away. Dean's an open book, but completely human.
2. Sure!

[appealingavarice]

First off: EEEEEEEE so excited to see this guy at Eway!

Now:
1. Greed isn't human, but the difference is one of origin. Functionally, he's pretty much identical to human for these purposes. He might seem slightly "off", but the more obvious difference is that there are two people in the one body. Daneel will most likely be able to read both Greed and Ling separately.
2. He's got no particular immunity to this kind of thing, so go ahead!

[could_be_dangerous]

Re: EWay, Daneel has full permission, though obviously Sherlock's mind and by extension his emotions are more chaotic than most humans'. Daneel is free to influence him; he's strong-willed but hardly immune to psychic influence. Just let me know first. :)

[burnburnburn]

You've got full permission for both of those for Dilandau.

The general impression Daneel would get is Dilandau's quite emotionally unstable. He's often stewing in anger and if anything's on fire nearby he'll be maniacally excited.